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Q+A with Lisa Price

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This literally home-grown brand has been on the scene for EVAH. Thandie Carol's Daughter Hair MilkAfter working with sweet Will Smith on ‘The Pursuit of Happyness’, he and Jada sent me a basket of Carol’s Daughter products as a birthday gift. I still remember opening the box, and swooning at the release of rich, deep, sweet smells. Now, years later I’m reminded of Carol’s Daughter as Westworld’s (the HBO drama I’m currently filming) hair chief Joy Zapata sent me home with the Hair Milk plus a pot of the Marula Oil mask.

A combination of still nursing my 2 year old, and a lot of shooting, has left my hair in a sorry state. So, Carol’s Daughter (aka founder Lisa Price) has come to the rescue. And I’m loving it.

We’re proud to welcome Lisa to ThandieKay again (see our post on my favourite Carol’s Daughter hair products here), this time for our beauty Q+A!


What is your earliest beauty memory?

lisa price carol's daughter  Pond’s Cold Cream thandie kayI have two.  One is the softness of my mother’s cheek.  I always remember her skin being very soft.  I remember when I was old enough to play in the medicine cabinet and I discovered her Oil of Olay Cleansing Lotion and her Pond’s Cold Cream.  I assumed that these two items must have been the course of that softness.  vintage oil of olay thandiekay.com

My mother was such a minimalist when it came to beauty that the fact that she had two items for her face, made an impression on me, even as a child.

Even though I use my own Face Butter, I still keep a jar of Pond’s in my bathroom, just so that I can relive that feeling of Mommy’s face. Her cheek against mine.

lisa price carol's daughter  chanel-no-5-perfume-ad-photographed-by-richard-avedon thandie kaySecond memory – the birth of my love of fragrance all started with my Nana’s Chanel No. 5. It was on her dresser. MyNanaMarguerite








She wore it for church, only on Sundays.  I thought it was the most amazing thing I ever smelled ever and couldn’t understand why she didn’t wear it every single day.

 I feel most beautiful when…

My husband smiles at me.  When he hugs me and nuzzles my neck and says, “ Hmmm, you smell so good.  What is that?” That is something he said on our first date and even when he knows today, what it is, he still asks because he knows how much that resonated with me back then.

 Who do you find beautiful and why?

People that I find beautiful I feel that society may also find beautiful but I see beyond the physical aspects of their beauty and look at their confidence, their swagger and their authenticity.

Women – Lupita Nyong’o, Debbie Allen, Helen Mirren, Lauren Bacall, Beyoncé, Amandla Stenberg, Thandie Newton (not pandering to the editor here, this is true), Sophia Loren, Serena Williams, Michelle Obama.  I could list more.

Men – Idris Elba, Cary Grant, Michael Ealy, Michael Fassbender, Gene Kelly, Paul Newman, Robert Redford, Prince, Rob Lowe, Eric Benet, and Don Cheadle.

 When you were a child, what was your Mother’s beauty routine?

My mom cleaned her face, most of the time with soap and occasionally with Oil of Olay, back when it was one product.  A cleansing lotion that came in a glass bottle.  She moisturized with Pond’s Cold Cream and my mother very rarely wore makeup.  I remember her bottle of foundation being in the medicine cabinet forever.  This was long before we had magazines telling us that our makeup spoiled.  Mommy also had one blush, mascara, and a nude coral lipstick. That was it.  She had freckles on her face and never covered them.  It is safe for me to say that she probably wore makeup about 6 times a year.

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When I began to make products and she got to “play” with textures and scents in Body and Hair Care, Mommy became less minimalist.  She had her favorites – my Ocean line and also anything with Lavender or Eucalyptus.  She suddenly found it acceptable to soak in Bath Salts and Bath Oils, wash with various gels and bar soaps and slather on lotions and Body Butters.  She loved smelling good and loved how these things made her feel emotionally and how they made her skin and hair feel.

 Is make-up a chore or a delight?

For me it can be both.  More of a chore when I have back-to-back days of it and there are lashes and heavier applications because of television or camera work.  But, when it’s for fun, for a party or to play with new colors or a new smokey eye, that is fun and I love it.

 Did your father refer to your Mother’s beauty, and how?

This isn’t something I witnessed as a child.  Not saying it didn’t happen, I just didn’t see it.  My parents also split when I was about 10/11.  Daddy remained in my life and he and Mommy were great at not letting their personal differences interfere.  In my adult years and after my mother’s passing, my dad spoke more about how beautiful my mother was as a person.  Not just her physical appearance.  He seemed to be more impressed with her patience, her capacity to love and her bravery.  He said he never deserved her and it took him years to realize that.

Lisa on HSN

 What would you like to see more of in the beauty industry?

More honesty and authenticity.  More of a celebration of who women really are and not who society tells us we should be.  The whole “aspirational” look is annoying.  I also want to see more blurring of gender lines.  I have a son who likes to wear makeup sometimes- in his way.  He is male but he is made to feel less so because he wants to do that.  My son looks at gender in a very fluid way.  For him, there are no absolutes.


 When was the last time your mascara ran, and why?

Honestly, I use very waterproof mascara, but I did take a Soul Cycle class, a double, about a week ago, and I had a full face on that day because I shot video and I didn’t’ have time to remove my face before class and it ran all down my face and was wiped pretty much clean off with my towel before the end of the first class.  That felt good, though, to sweat it off versus cry it off.

 If you could give one beauty ‘gift’, what would it be?

The gift of fragrance, but not just sending someone a fragrance, but having a fragrance experience with them so that they learn about scent and the art of perfumery and how that translates for them.  I attended a business conference for women about 7 years ago that included a private shopping session for us in Nordstrom’s.  Our gift from Nordstrom was a deluxe sample of the scent of our choice and I helped several women choose- not based on designer or packaging, but their lifestyle and likes and dislikes. It was so much fun to watch them discover scent in such a personal way.  The beauty advisors loved it too as it resulted in sales and not just samples.

Lisa and family

Lisa ans family


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Talking with John Masters Organic

Posted by Kay

Being ‘the change you wish to see in the world‘ is not necessarily the motivation for many entrepreneurs. They have vision, courage and are not frightened of doing something that hasn’t been done before, in fact, that’s a large part of any brand’s success: filling a void, establishing a niche.

But how many entrepreneurs use these visionary strengths to create a positive shift in their marketplace of choice?

Performance, the consumer ‘experience’, the aesthetic, the ethics, an accessible price point- it’s very hard to tick ‘yes’ to all that criteria and have a profitable business. So much simpler to use generic, petrochemical-laden compounds already available, tweak in your own fragrance and packaging and voila-you have your own range!

thandiekay cartoonBut truthfully, are those ingredients really the best for the job, should those ingredients really be ingested regularly into the largest organ of your body-the skin?

We agree with the idea that given the option, why use synthetics when natural products work better and are safer for our children, the environment, and us?

We love to celebrate those that tick these boxes. There are so many brands out there whose products ‘work’ because they clean or create shine or look great in your bathroom plus they’re endorsed by ‘beautiful people’ so they must be good-right? But the question really is, do many of those products contain cheap ingredients (=less financial outlay) that are more profitable for the brand’s shareholders but less beneficial for you in the long term?John_Masters_Organics_Lavender_and_Avocado_Intensive_Conditioner_207ml_1374839836

This is why we love John Masters Organic. On a purely girly level they are one of the best quality ranges of haircare in the world, and for women of colour they are absolutely ideal!

You don’t need me to tell you that having DNA from the African diaspora means that your hair is drier, therefore more brittle, and has a shorter lifespan in general than straight hair and takes way more TLC. John Masters shampoos have none of the (cheap) rough detergents used in all regular shampoos that strip our hair of the oils that are essential to protecting it. Only high-grade oils that really help nourish hair are allowed in.  Thandie loves his Lavender & Avocado Intensive Conditioner so much so that I gave it angel wings in Photoshop! We also posted on his Deep scalp follicle treatment & volumizer for thinning hair in our Perfect DIY Blowdry’ post.


Photograph by Billie Scheepers

John Masters Organic Dry Hair Nourishment and DefrizzerI’d love to buy his entire range for dry hair but for now, his Dry Hair Nourishment & Defrizzer is never too far from my sad old ends!

Nothing, I repeat nothing, soothes tired ends out like this rich oil full of moisturising jojoba oil, lavender to slow hair loss (also treats eczema and dermatitis on the scalp), rosemary to stimulate hair growth, add volume and shine and finally anti-inflammatory cedarwood, great for an oily scalp and even dandruff.

If you know, please tell me which petrochemicals have these supernatural powers!

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Thandie: Did you have personal experiences, which lead you to create your organic line?

JM: Yes my organic line was completely inspired by personal experiences & was simply an extension of my lifestyle. It started in the 80’s. At that time many of my friends were all getting sick with HIV and were turning to alternative treatments but it was too late and not enough information available. This was a big wakeup call for me.

peipaye1otvqWhy wait until you are sick before cleaning up your life. If you are blessed with health I believe it is only common sense to choose healthier options if given a choice. I became fascinated with and started living a more holistic, organic and at that time alternative lifestyle becoming interested in expanding one’s consciousness, natural healing modulates & organic food and herbs.

It made no sense for me to continue working in a conventional salon handling and breathing toxic chemicals day after day, hence the birth of JMO products, the first professional organic based haircare line, and my salon in NYC, the first clean air salon in the world. I must add how amazed and humbled I am to see so many salons worldwide follow our lead.

Thandie: What synthetic/chemical ingredients were most difficult to replace with natural alternatives?

JM: Petro-based silicon to control dry, frizzy hair and add shine was a tough ingredient to replace but we did it.

Thandie: Is the term ‘organic’ over used in the beauty industry?

JM: Yes although it is getting better due to consumer awareness. I highly suggest one reads the ingredient list on your product you are considering.

Thandie: How vigilant can you be as a brand owner about your customers’ recycling and packaging- do you try to keep packaging sustainable?

JM: As a brand owner we offer packaging that is recyclable. Our boxes used for skincare are 100% PCW recycled paper, printed with vegetable ink and 100% compostable. In addition we only use packing “peanuts” made from cornstarch, which is 100% biodegradable. Most of our clients I believe are aware of the importance of recycling. The fact they are buying an organic based product over a conventional, chemically laden one strongly suggests to me they are aware individuals.

Thandie: I find many of your products excellent for my curly hair. How important is to you to reach a diverse fan base?

JM: It is very important for JMO to offer an organic based product for all types of hair, skin, & body care needs. It is an on-going process and we are constantly testing new organic raw materials and if approved, to use in new products to target specific hair and skin care needs.vvosjcczn1b2

Thandie: What do you find most important when maintaining and improving the health of Afro hair?

JM: Nourishment is key & not over shampooing.

Thandie: Does your personal philosophy for life reflect in your work ethics and how?

JM: Yes. We have always done our best to be health & eco-conscious, diverse and fair in our relationships with our client base and the entire JMO team.

Thandie: Who or what inspires you in life and work?

JM: Nature, music, and dancing. I love going for walks in nature with my dogs in the woods or jungle, by a stream or down the beach in Costa Rica.  At 59 in a few months I still love to dance the night away and listening while watching singers perform often bring me to tears.

Thandie: Any future plans we should know about?

JM: New unique organic products & a big surprise soon, which will delight a lot of customers. Stay tuned!

Kay:  As I say above I’m so impressed with the Dry Hair Nourishment & Defrizzer. I’m curious about how you create such unique formulas, is there a lot of experimentation on different hair textures in order to get the right ‘recipe’? I ask this because it is so different to other brands!

Great to hear my Dry Hair Nourishment & Defrizzer is working so well for you! This was one of my first products. I created it myself in my kitchen in NYC before I opened a salon and was at the time freelancing out of my studio. I read a lot of books-no computer back then- & started testing different 100% organic formulations I thought might work on my clients based on my research. It really was fun and that was around 1989.

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